There's one subject that has been on my mind lately, and that's on how 1vX PvPrs tend to call dedicated PvErs "carebears" and how they love to shove "PvP is the true endgame" crap in PvE raiders' faces.
But that's another topic for another time.
The focus of my rant today is the tendency for those 1vXrs to do Battlegrounds and run around and kill people, nothing else. In other words, they are pretty much completely useless to the team in objective-based matches (which is every single one of them but Deathmatch).
Now, I'm a PvEr. I do a lot of endgame PvE content, scorepushing trials to a good amount of success with my favorite people in Outbreak. That doesn't mean that I don't do PvP.
I've been playing in Battlegrounds since Horns of the Reach on my stam DK, back then running around in divines Hunding's Rage gear and a 2H Maelstrom sword and spamming Dizzying Swing and still performing moderately well.
I say "moderately well", because most of the times I top the group scoreboard or is at least in the top half for my group. That's because I focus on the objectives in each match, whether it be Domination or Capture the Relic, and I find it a lot of fun to be flipping those flags while avoiding the enemy team and sneaking around focused fights to grab the enemy relics right under their noses.
Right now in Clockwork City, I have my stam DK mostly specced into my PvP gear and CP, with actual decent Automaton gear this time, though I do break out my PvE gear a few times a week to do trials (I mostly leave that to my stamsorc now).
And I like to consider myself pretty decent at Battlegrounds now, to be honest. Sure, I may not be up to par with others when it comes to PvP, but I still make it to the top of my group scores most of the time, and even in the top half of all three Battlegrounds weekly leaderboards.
That's because, after all this time, I still play objectives. I still try to cap every undefended flag I could get to, I still try to sneak relics out from under enemy noses and defend my team's relic at the same time, I still try to grab the ball and stay alive as much as possible, and I still try to find the power sigils to gain an unfair advantage for my team.
One particular pattern I've been noticing recently, though, is that some of the people that I consider "good PvPrs" have no place in Battlegrounds.
I was playing a Capture the Relic match earlier today, and one of those 1vX PvPrs was on the other team. Let's call that guy "SorcBoi", because he was a shield-stacking magsorc with a lot of burst and an execute; annoyingly hard to kill and frustratingly powerful.
SorcBoi was on the Red team (I'll be calling the teams Red, Green, and Purple). I was on Green.
The entire match, SorcBoi would just run around, mostly to Green side, and do nothing but try get kills. Meanwhile, the Purple team kept on capturing Red's relic because Red was powerless without Sorcboi helping to defend. I just watched the Red relic just drift over to the Purple's base on my compass, repeatedly, all the while I was trying to keep Sorcboi (and the legions of other enemy players) at bay from our own relic. SorcBoi never returned to his base to help defend; he just wanted kills.
The match ended with Purple winning 500 - 0 - 0. All of those points were Red relic captures.
[Snip]
[The moderators have decided to remove this part because they believed "SorcBoi" was a real name, even though it was already specified it was a fake name in in the previous paragraph]
[And they didn't remove those]
[Anyway, basically, it was just a chatlog where I messaged "SorcBoi" and he said that he couldn't give a s*** about his team, and that I felt sorry for his teammates for bring grouped up with someone throwing the game]
In the many Battlegrounds matches I've played, I've been seeing 1vXrs just ignoring objectives, lost in their bloodlust, with their K/D ratio being the only thing on their minds. And every single time, they end up at the bottom of the end-of-match scoreboard because they didn't do objectives, and most of the time on one of the losing teams where some poor squishy sod grouped up with them was trying hard to actually do the objectives. Some of those times, I was that poor squishy sod.
I'm actually pals with a couple of those 1vXrs, and I ended up in their Discord server one evening when I was in a group with them. (Pre-mades! In BGs! Ahh!)
They brag about that crap! They would post screenshots of their end-of-match scoreboard with their team completely wiped out but a personal 22-0-25 K/D/A ratio.
I have nothing against being good at killing other people, but when they're so damn engrossed with that without caring about the objectives in Battlegrounds, they become nothing but dead weight and a detriment to their team. Even if they do not care about their team, their team cares about doing well, but if a supposed teammate just runs off and leaves them stranded, they're pretty much screwed.
That behaviour sickens me. The mentality of it is truly disgusting.
If you are one of those PvPrs, please, do all of us a favor, and go into Cyrodiil instead. There, you get to kill as many people to your heart's content, perhaps wipe out a zerg of lowbies on your own, and most of all, you won't be a letdown to anyone.
If you would prefer to stay in Battlegrounds, here's a novel idea: how about get kills on the objective? Yes! You can both kill people and stay on the objectives! Amazing! How does it work? See, in an objective-based game, people are bound to gather... [drumroll]... around the objectives!
On an off note, I would have said the same to low CP (sub CP160) people looking to do BGs just to unlock Caltrops, and therefore also being a detriment to the team, but at least those people know how to take instructions, and we could still scrap together a win just by doing objectives. (But really, go into Cyrodiil; again, there, you won't be a letdown to anyone, and you get more AP this way. Trust me, it's faster there.)
[Edited to remove name-and-shame]
[Which was actually inapplicable because who in Oblivion even is "SorcBoi" lmao]
But that's another topic for another time.
The focus of my rant today is the tendency for those 1vXrs to do Battlegrounds and run around and kill people, nothing else. In other words, they are pretty much completely useless to the team in objective-based matches (which is every single one of them but Deathmatch).
Now, I'm a PvEr. I do a lot of endgame PvE content, scorepushing trials to a good amount of success with my favorite people in Outbreak. That doesn't mean that I don't do PvP.
I've been playing in Battlegrounds since Horns of the Reach on my stam DK, back then running around in divines Hunding's Rage gear and a 2H Maelstrom sword and spamming Dizzying Swing and still performing moderately well.
I say "moderately well", because most of the times I top the group scoreboard or is at least in the top half for my group. That's because I focus on the objectives in each match, whether it be Domination or Capture the Relic, and I find it a lot of fun to be flipping those flags while avoiding the enemy team and sneaking around focused fights to grab the enemy relics right under their noses.
Right now in Clockwork City, I have my stam DK mostly specced into my PvP gear and CP, with actual decent Automaton gear this time, though I do break out my PvE gear a few times a week to do trials (I mostly leave that to my stamsorc now).
And I like to consider myself pretty decent at Battlegrounds now, to be honest. Sure, I may not be up to par with others when it comes to PvP, but I still make it to the top of my group scores most of the time, and even in the top half of all three Battlegrounds weekly leaderboards.
That's because, after all this time, I still play objectives. I still try to cap every undefended flag I could get to, I still try to sneak relics out from under enemy noses and defend my team's relic at the same time, I still try to grab the ball and stay alive as much as possible, and I still try to find the power sigils to gain an unfair advantage for my team.
One particular pattern I've been noticing recently, though, is that some of the people that I consider "good PvPrs" have no place in Battlegrounds.
I was playing a Capture the Relic match earlier today, and one of those 1vX PvPrs was on the other team. Let's call that guy "SorcBoi", because he was a shield-stacking magsorc with a lot of burst and an execute; annoyingly hard to kill and frustratingly powerful.
SorcBoi was on the Red team (I'll be calling the teams Red, Green, and Purple). I was on Green.
The entire match, SorcBoi would just run around, mostly to Green side, and do nothing but try get kills. Meanwhile, the Purple team kept on capturing Red's relic because Red was powerless without Sorcboi helping to defend. I just watched the Red relic just drift over to the Purple's base on my compass, repeatedly, all the while I was trying to keep Sorcboi (and the legions of other enemy players) at bay from our own relic. SorcBoi never returned to his base to help defend; he just wanted kills.
The match ended with Purple winning 500 - 0 - 0. All of those points were Red relic captures.
[Snip]
[The moderators have decided to remove this part because they believed "SorcBoi" was a real name, even though it was already specified it was a fake name in in the previous paragraph]
[And they didn't remove those]
[Anyway, basically, it was just a chatlog where I messaged "SorcBoi" and he said that he couldn't give a s*** about his team, and that I felt sorry for his teammates for bring grouped up with someone throwing the game]
In the many Battlegrounds matches I've played, I've been seeing 1vXrs just ignoring objectives, lost in their bloodlust, with their K/D ratio being the only thing on their minds. And every single time, they end up at the bottom of the end-of-match scoreboard because they didn't do objectives, and most of the time on one of the losing teams where some poor squishy sod grouped up with them was trying hard to actually do the objectives. Some of those times, I was that poor squishy sod.
I'm actually pals with a couple of those 1vXrs, and I ended up in their Discord server one evening when I was in a group with them. (Pre-mades! In BGs! Ahh!)
They brag about that crap! They would post screenshots of their end-of-match scoreboard with their team completely wiped out but a personal 22-0-25 K/D/A ratio.
I have nothing against being good at killing other people, but when they're so damn engrossed with that without caring about the objectives in Battlegrounds, they become nothing but dead weight and a detriment to their team. Even if they do not care about their team, their team cares about doing well, but if a supposed teammate just runs off and leaves them stranded, they're pretty much screwed.
That behaviour sickens me. The mentality of it is truly disgusting.
If you are one of those PvPrs, please, do all of us a favor, and go into Cyrodiil instead. There, you get to kill as many people to your heart's content, perhaps wipe out a zerg of lowbies on your own, and most of all, you won't be a letdown to anyone.
If you would prefer to stay in Battlegrounds, here's a novel idea: how about get kills on the objective? Yes! You can both kill people and stay on the objectives! Amazing! How does it work? See, in an objective-based game, people are bound to gather... [drumroll]... around the objectives!
On an off note, I would have said the same to low CP (sub CP160) people looking to do BGs just to unlock Caltrops, and therefore also being a detriment to the team, but at least those people know how to take instructions, and we could still scrap together a win just by doing objectives. (But really, go into Cyrodiil; again, there, you won't be a letdown to anyone, and you get more AP this way. Trust me, it's faster there.)
[Edited to remove name-and-shame]
[Which was actually inapplicable because who in Oblivion even is "SorcBoi" lmao]
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